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Ubudian wrote:

I'd go with the Fortuna unless you have a larger family in which case I'd go with the Kijang which has been our choice for over 15 years.  The beauty of both is that they are much less expensive to maintain over the years, and most any mechanic can work on them (after your warranty has expired).  Also, they both hold high re-sale values.

As we are often in the central mountains we opted for the 2000 cc engine even though they are taxed higher.  The extra power is well worth it.

Yup the Fortuna is still a high possibility. Can't deny that all your points for getting a Toyota make sense.

mas fred wrote:

Neither will be much good on the narrow roads that are so common in Indonesia.
I see these overgrown tanks every day, always stuck to the point they block the roads when two meet.
One of the larger whateveritwas, was so wide, it took the whole road to the point a motorbike didn't have room to get past.

What vehicle do you suggest for carrying 6 people? I don't want anything crappy.

Ubudian wrote:

"Neither will be much good on the narrow roads that are so common in Indonesia."

I think Fred is suggesting a motor bike because neither the Kijang or the Fortuna are all that wide...many more SUV's being wider.

Moreover, there are far more Kijangs on the roads of Indonesia that any other SUV...narrow or not.

I did consider the Innova 2.5G but I'm thinking to get something a bit more spacious, hence the Fortuna or something similar. It's just a pity that the Fortuna hasn't been modernised inside like most other brands of SUV. The Kia Sorrento is quiet and a very comfortable with sunroof and modern intereior, but then low resale. Still got time to decide.

lukereg wrote:

What about the Alphard or Suzuki APV? They are big and spacious.

For Alphard I'd need to get a driver, and it's huge. The APV is kind of smallish. I'm after something strong to get me around the hills surrounding Bandung but also something that commands a little bit of respect on the road and has lots of comfort. I want to spend up to Rp500 million. I'm used to driving an SUV so am looking in that direction.