Why expats love Vietnam?
I'm Anne-Lise from the 天美麻豆 team. In a survey we ran on expatriation trends in 2019, we realised that a lot of professionals were considering Vietnam as an expat destination. We, therefore, decided to put together a little piece about why Vietnam will be becoming a big expat hub in the coming years.
What do you think? Is there anything we have missed?
As for you, expats-to-be planning a move to Vietnam- what made you interested in the country?
Wish you all an amazing week end !
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I discovered the joy of Vietnam quite by accident. I was visiting a friend in Cambodia a few years ago and while travelling around, I met an English man who lives and works in Vietnam. He spoke so highly of his life there, I decided to give it a try and I must say I am hooked.
The people are lovely, gentle, respectful and welcoming. The countryside is beautiful once you get out of the major cities and the cost of living is low. I am recently retired so this latter point is very important.
I spent a couple of months there last winter and this year I have a one way ticket booked, so who knows?
I wouldn't live there full time as I have a home in Ireland, which is lovely in the summer, but if things work out I can imagine spending my winters in Vietnam for the rest of my life.
Malcolm
People are friendly and polite.
No terrorism and relatively low crime rate.
Affordable
Relaxed vibe
Country has a lot of character and charm
Good food which extends itself well to international selections
Good enough choice of medical if you are retired
Flexible visa scheme
However, looking for a decent partner here is challenging and imo the tradeoff for all the positive things about Vietnam. The women here are visibly less easygoing than women in neighboring countries to the point where I have to ask myself what is the appeal compared to places like Thailand, PI, Malaysia, etc.
I have seen few westerners make it work here which is why I suppose it's not a popular retirement choice compared to PI / Thailand and why expats choose to hole themselves in a slum on Luzon / Visayas.
I am in serious consideration to come back to visit to setup an anchor to travel in Asia.
Vietnamese women are hard to get, they are in for long term commitment, marriage. Most marriage is for life, and relationship starts with instroduction from friends, relatives who knows one's background. The women are loyal, resourceful, caring, hard working. I witnesses these characters tested during and after the war.
If you plan for a long term, go for it, it is worthy. Short term, there is service for it, pay as you go, no hard feeling, no one get hurt.
鈥淐heap beer and even cheaper tail鈥
Brutal and honest
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Nielsen Flute wrote:Yes, the country is quite great.
People are friendly and polite.
No terrorism and relatively low crime rate.
Affordable
Relaxed vibe
Country has a lot of character and charm
Good food which extends itself well to international selections
Good enough choice of medical if you are retired
Flexible visa scheme
However, looking for a decent partner here is challenging and imo the tradeoff for all the positive things about Vietnam. The women here are visibly less easygoing than women in neighboring countries to the point where I have to ask myself what is the appeal compared to places like Thailand, PI, Malaysia, etc.
I have seen few westerners make it work here which is why I suppose it's not a popular retirement choice compared to PI / Thailand and why expats choose to hole themselves in a slum on Luzon / Visayas.
I pretty much agree with this assessment, except the part about the food, which is a disappointment about 75% of the time, both local and international.
Anyway, on the one hand, living in Vietnam is quite pleasant and easy but on the other hand, it's also incredibly boring. Unfortunately, other countries in the region aren't progressing as well as Vietnam and so, don't really provide very good long-term options.
Of course, if you choose to stay聽 in VN, it's vital to stay positive and make the best of it. Regular trips to other countries in the region are also helpful.
johnross23 wrote:Nielsen Flute wrote:Yes, the country is quite great.
People are friendly and polite.
No terrorism and relatively low crime rate.
Affordable
Relaxed vibe
Country has a lot of character and charm
Good food which extends itself well to international selections
Good enough choice of medical if you are retired
Flexible visa scheme
However, looking for a decent partner here is challenging and imo the tradeoff for all the positive things about Vietnam. The women here are visibly less easygoing than women in neighboring countries to the point where I have to ask myself what is the appeal compared to places like Thailand, PI, Malaysia, etc.
I have seen few westerners make it work here which is why I suppose it's not a popular retirement choice compared to PI / Thailand and why expats choose to hole themselves in a slum on Luzon / Visayas.
I pretty much agree with this assessment, except the part about the food, which is a disappointment about 75% of the time, both local and international.
Anyway, on the one hand, living in Vietnam is quite pleasant and easy but on the other hand, it's also incredibly boring. Unfortunately, other countries in the region aren't progressing as well as Vietnam and so, don't really provide very good long-term options.
Of course, if you choose to stay聽 in VN, it's vital to stay positive and make the best of it. Regular trips to other countries in the region are also helpful.
Dissapointed by the food 75% of the time? By day 30 in Vietnam, a year ago,聽 I had a roster of restaurants both intl and local, and and food stalls that do not, I assure you, dissapoint. I would suggest befriending some locals to find good Vietnamese foods. If you are too introverted ( hey, I can be very guilty of this myself, I travel alone, live alone, work alone) look for super busy restaurants , or stalls with police eating at them. I will agree I got some bunk meals my first two weeks, haha. A suggestion? Use a Vietnamese name on your grabfood acct. The portions will be larger and the food comes faster. I received pho from one of my favorites 20 mins away, and it was still so hot it burned a hole on my foot when I spilled some. Buy a rice cooker, get the best rice, start it when ordering grabfood. It pays for itself shortly and will make the meals more enjoyable.
Some people are friendly and sometimes polite.
But often exceedingly rude and just plain ignorant.
The crime rate is very high, hence bars on the windows.
Affordable
The weather is great in Saigon.
Good food mixed with inedible fodder.
Medical is not bad except for the lack of English.
Some Doctors have purchased their diploma.
Police are definitely not your friends.
Inflexible visa system.
Definitely no country for old men.
Very boring scenery in the south.
Beautiful scenery in the north.
Why do I stay? Masochistic.
People friendly, great food, reasonable cost of living.
Woman are gorgeous, but are not like woman in thailand(trashy) looking to hook a falang with sex.
If you put your time in, you can find a wonderful woman.
No it's not Thailand or the PI.
Vietnamese woman still have morals and values.
Never had an issue with crime, don't u derstand a previous post.
Beautiful in the north, weather is fabulous.
International airports.
Relaxed life.
Canman63 wrote:I stay away from Saigon and Hanoi, rat race. The smaller places are great.
People friendly, great food, reasonable cost of living.
Woman are gorgeous, but are not like woman in thailand(trashy) looking to hook a falang with sex.
If you put your time in, you can find a wonderful woman.
No it's not Thailand or the PI.
Vietnamese woman still have morals and values.
Never had an issue with crime, don't u derstand a previous post.
Beautiful in the north, weather is fabulous.
International airports.
Relaxed life.
Yogis worried about you Canman.馃槼
Yogi would like to suggest some counselling......
What鈥檚 wrong with 鈥渢rashy鈥 women. ??聽 聽 聽You know what your gunna get.....and there鈥檚 not a chance in hell聽 you鈥檒l be seen buying them a house, motorbike or bank rolling the families debts.
Aim low canman.

Even a bear needs something to hibernate with long term. To keep me warm in the den in the winter months, not leaving me in the den and trying the next boar.
Canman63 wrote:Nothing is wrong with trashy woman, but after several hundred聽 of them, the novelty wears off and I am getting old. Perhaps it's time to find something of the keeper sort. What about that yogi?
Even a bear needs something to hibernate with long term. To keep me warm in the den in the winter months, not leaving me in the den and trying the next boar.
WHAT.......鈥漵everal hundred of them鈥,,,,,took a while for the novelty to wear off馃槅馃槅馃槅
Aah...so your looking for a 鈥渒eeper鈥.聽 聽 Sounds like she better be in good shape.
As for Yogi.....I move around a lot within the region,but have a good long term friendship with a lady here.
Yogis figured out how to stay warm without getting too close to the fire.馃
Yogi007 wrote:Canman63 wrote:Nothing is wrong with trashy woman, but after several hundred聽 of them, the novelty wears off and I am getting old. Perhaps it's time to find something of the keeper sort. What about that yogi?
Even a bear needs something to hibernate with long term. To keep me warm in the den in the winter months, not leaving me in the den and trying the next boar.
WHAT.......鈥漵everal hundred of them鈥,,,,,took a while for the novelty to wear off馃槅馃槅馃槅
Aah...so your looking for a 鈥渒eeper鈥.聽 聽 Sounds like she better be in good shape.
As for Yogi.....I move around a lot within the region,but have a good long term friendship with a lady here.
Yogis figured out how to stay warm without getting too close to the fire.馃
Yes Mr Bear, there are actually some very wonderful woman in Vietnam. Even you make sink your claws one day!
But Yogi has found a better way of staying warm in the den apart from committing financial suicide .
Buy a blanket. 馃槅
Yogi has tried the co habitation option on a few occasions.聽 聽Didn鈥檛 work out.聽 聽 Communication issues, Compatibility & Relationship Expectations were the main obstacles.聽 聽
However.....the聽 鈥渒icker鈥 was witnessing a grown woman sitting around all day playing 鈥 hello kitty鈥 on a phone.聽 聽 聽Plus....they鈥檇 only spring to life at meal times. 馃槅
There鈥檚 advantages to having your own space.
Yogi007 wrote:However.....the聽 鈥渒icker鈥 was witnessing a grown woman sitting around all day playing 鈥 hello kitty鈥 on a phone.
Mine was "Angry Bird" but same idea 

But there are decent professionals to be had. My last was a lawyer.
Perhaps look in different places.
You blokes have made Yogi鈥檚 day.....
So far we鈥檝e聽 got聽 聽Hello Kitty,聽 Angry Bird & now Candy Crush.馃槅馃槅馃槅
Says it all doesn鈥檛 it.
That鈥檚 what Yogi loves about this place.....
They鈥檙e so easily pleased.馃惥馃惥馃惥
Canman63 wrote:Perhaps look in different places.
Perhaps, if I might make a wild suggestion, stop looking.
On the hunt for casual sex works and you tend to get a sex (assuming your personality doesn't make girls vomit), but going on the hunt for a wife tends to get you well and truly sexed, mostly financially, but also in terms of stress levels.
On the other hand, not looking for a wife tends to mean you eventually meet a nice lady, probably not in a bar, more likely at some social gathering, or at a bus stop, outside a McD in Kuala Lumpur, or whereever.
My use of an indefinite article works if you consider synonyms.
If you keep your nose clean, don鈥檛 sh#t in your own nest & stay away from the disheveled Expat drunks.....it鈥檚 easy.
My lady friend ( I鈥檝e known for ages) actually said to keep away from the drunken , broke assed losers around here. 馃槅馃槅馃槅
Her family doesn鈥檛 want the shame of their daughter hanging out with the Expat bogan Swill. 馃槅
There鈥檚 another thing yogi likes about this place.......it鈥檚 getting classy.
聽 聽Please?聽 聽Cease with the humility; recognition is wordless
聽 聽Wool & Fur were always a class act聽 聽(Naturally)聽 聽 聽
聽 聽Synthetic stuff speaks for itself...聽 聽 聽 聽(Virtually)聽 聽 聽 聽
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vndreamer wrote:I am curious, is this talk about cohabitation etc. on or off topic about why Expats love VN?聽
In fact it may not only be on topic, but the central element.聽 
Fred wrote:... or at a bus stop, outside a McD in Kuala Lumpur,...
This seems like an odd suggestion, Fred.聽 Is this how you met your other half?聽 聽


Yogi007 wrote:Actually I鈥檝e never had to look......
If you keep your nose clean, don鈥檛 sh#t in your own nest & stay away from the disheveled Expat drunks.....it鈥檚 easy.
My lady friend ( I鈥檝e known for ages) actually said to keep away from the drunken , broke assed losers around here. 馃槅馃槅馃槅
Her family doesn鈥檛 want the shame of their daughter hanging out with the Expat bogan Swill. 馃槅
There鈥檚 another thing yogi likes about this place.......it鈥檚 getting classy.
never had to look myself grizz man, when a ruggedly handsome Canadian gentleman makes his entrance in a place, the aura that surrounds him makes it almost possible for the viet ladies to control themselves. Coupled with a fabulous personality, wonderful smile, it's no wonder Canadians are loved throughout the globe!
I'd offer you advice Grizzly Adams, but you seem to have it figured out as well.
PS, if you see a crowd of ladies surrounding a man in Danang, it's not brad Pitt, it's can man, come over, I'll share, u can buy us all dinner.oh, and a few Saigon beers!
And yes , it's so much different here in Vietnam, classy ladies, in Thailand the gals swarm the broke ass expat bogan swill.thats why they are all there!
THIGV wrote:Fred wrote:... or at a bus stop, outside a McD in Kuala Lumpur,...
This seems like an odd suggestion, Fred.聽 Is this how you met your other half?聽 聽
Aah ....gotcha Fred.
If that鈥檚 the Maccas in KL near the Bukit Bintang monorail...........guess what鈥檚 virtually next door.
Canman63 wrote:Yogi007 wrote:Actually I鈥檝e never had to look......
If you keep your nose clean, don鈥檛 sh#t in your own nest & stay away from the disheveled Expat drunks.....it鈥檚 easy.
My lady friend ( I鈥檝e known for ages) actually said to keep away from the drunken , broke assed losers around here. 馃槅馃槅馃槅
Her family doesn鈥檛 want the shame of their daughter hanging out with the Expat bogan Swill. 馃槅
There鈥檚 another thing yogi likes about this place.......it鈥檚 getting classy.
never had to look myself grizz man, when a ruggedly handsome Canadian gentleman makes his entrance in a place, the aura that surrounds him makes it almost possible for the viet ladies to control themselves. Coupled with a fabulous personality, wonderful smile, it's no wonder Canadians are loved throughout the globe!
I'd offer you advice Grizzly Adams, but you seem to have it figured out as well.
PS, if you see a crowd of ladies surrounding a man in Danang, it's not brad Pitt, it's can man, come over, I'll share, u can buy us all dinner.oh, and a few Saigon beers!
And yes , it's so much different here in Vietnam, classy ladies, in Thailand the gals swarm the broke ass expat bogan swill.thats why they are all there!
Mmmm,,,,you have the same issue,,.the ladies can鈥檛 control themselves ......yes , Yogi understands this phenomenon.聽 聽
I鈥檝e found the easiest way to disperse the crowd is to Pay the bill.聽 聽 They鈥檒l soon get out of your way.
I hope your not hanging by the balls waiting for Yogi to shout that pack of moochers a free feed .馃槅
I鈥檓 generous but not stupid.
Perhaps I can take you under my wing someday, seems like your den is not in a good part of the forest.
聽 聽 聽 聽I must demur聽 聽 聽 聽
聽 聽Yogi has (many) dens, but is not dense.聽 Also a 'can-man' who...
聽 聽..can both see the wood in the trees; and the way outa the forest聽 聽 聽
聽 聽A master of mystery?聽 (my story...)聽 聽His real name is Bond...
聽 聽J'aime's Bond...聽 聽(pardon my French...)聽 Whisky will do...聽 聽 聽 聽
聽 To sum up; a man of man(l)y means...聽 聽..and our local hero...聽 聽 聽
聽 聽 * Am I biased..?聽 聽 Nah, just jealous...聽 聽 聽 聽
聽 聽 聽Let's face the facts; who always gets the girl..?聽 聽 聽
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Our Canuck friend wants to take Yogi under his wing...馃槼馃槼
But Yogi likes his neck of the woods........I鈥檓 worried now,,Yogi could end up in a聽 Zoo at the ass end of the Yukon.
Stress, cash, investing, property, and only interested in rich girlfriends聽 (not really for me)
Go with the tide and never really get anywhere in any way (bit rubbish 9 to 5 stuff)
Sod the lot and do what you want, and who you want, never with serious commitment. (Not good when you get old)
All have something to be said for them, but none are really for me. so I did it my way.
Minimal stress because I work in a niche market with hardly any competition. A wife with minimal interest in much unless it's for the kids (Save the odd shopping for dresses stuff from time to time), and a stress free life 'cos I have a pile of cash in bonds I can draw on at any time and an income far more than I need, but bugger all financial commitments I need to think about. My total commitments come to about 1/12 of my salary and that's it, or was until I enrolled my youngest in school so education expenses have about doubled.
Investing in real estate projects anywhere in Asia at the moment is no something I would even consider unless I bought land and built myself or, in the case of buying a flat in Vietnam, only if I was insane.
聽 聽I agree with the insanity part, O Wooly One...聽 聽 聽
聽 For if you are living in Viet Nam + suffering stress, you are obviously
聽 a willing victim of the Western ideal of competition.聽 Viets co-operate
聽 Also agree; investing (anywhere?) in anything someone else has their
聽 finger in the pie as well as the easiest way to lose (much more than)
聽 your interest...聽 聽..prolly yer life savings as well..?
聽 But to beg the quality of the question..?聽 聽Expats (the wise ones) Love
聽 living where the quality (of the free stuff) abounds all around
聽 聽Let's list them.聽 Social strife?聽 Nil, unless Karaoke + barking dogs can
聽 upset yer sensitive soles...聽 聽Namaste works here 'cos EVERYONE knows
聽 they are in the same boat together.聽 聽No my story mystery here...
聽 Colour?聽 Caste?聽 Creed?聽 聽other Cultures?聽 聽No (real) probs unless YOU
聽 have one yer trying to sell...聽 聽..and you do, don't you..?
聽 聽..and where else on this 'pale blue dot' can you go both with the tide
聽 yet feel free to swim somewhere else..?聽 聽 聽Yairs.聽 You'll figure it out...
聽 聽Commitment???聽 聽Forget it.聽 聽I fly solo, and I'm not old enough to need
聽 someone else wipe my bum.聽 聽And I severely doubt if I'm unique in that!
聽 聽Sure, I'm preaching to the choir.聽 聽The silent majority know full well what
聽 paradise is & don't want (or need) to advertise the obvious...
聽 聽..and the vocal minority..?聽 聽 I'll keep teaching + preaching...
聽 聽 聽Who else has the guts to face the trolls..?聽 聽 聽 聽
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You make a lot of sense for a Queenslander. 馃槅馃槅馃槅
Even one of your biggest 鈥渇ans鈥 ....Andy is 鈥渕aybe鈥 quietly agreeing with your every word.
Who knows....he may even come back one day & help you wipe your bottom馃槅馃槅馃槅馃槅
Canman63 wrote:The gals I hang with INSIST on paying half.
Well, I've been eating pop corns all evening reading this interesting thread, being swayed away by stories of zillionaires spending only 5% of their monthly money to live da life in Asia, to stories of out of control Vietnamese ladies desperately wanting a piece of some foreigner's meat, but the story of a Vietnamese woman insisting on paying half just can't be computed by my brain. It's a concept beyond my comprehension and if I keep on trying to make sense of it it might leave a permanent left hemisphere scar.
That being said, I agree that Canadian men are irresistible and no other man from any other country can compete with our cutiness. Australians certainly don't stand a chance because they've got that weird accent, Americans voted for Trump and English men drink tea with milk.
聽 聽True.聽 聽Canadians couple both Mountin' Men & humility,聽 but...
聽 The 'long game'?聽 聽An alien concept: a con beyond the ken of far too many
聽 聽..applying to all hemispheres, cultures, even gender benders...
聽 聽 Sorry guys: the 'gold' girls hold all the cards here...聽 聽 聽 聽
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