Electricity from municipality

15POSTS

6 years ago

Hello.

I wanted to clarify something about electricity prices.

If you live in a community or a condo complex they will provide the electricity for you and probably will have back up generators. So this is more expensive. I asked around and seems to be around 12-14 pesos per kWH.

Now if you were in a house in the mountain or similiar to La Mulata in Sosua you would have direct hook up to city correct? Where I would have to get my own battery back up?

If that's the case does anybody know how much does Ede Norte charge per kWH?

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planner Dominican Republic Expert

17821POSTS

6 years ago

The electricity company posts their price rates based on kwh of usage per month.聽 All the govt distributors Edeeste Edesur and Edenorte charge the same rates. It is a stepped up formula that gets much more expensive the more you use!聽

These are not exact, I don't have a bill in front of me, the first 200 or 300 are like 4.86 pesos per kwh.聽 Then jumps to 7.86 and eventually at 700 kwh it jumps to 11.86 per kwh.聽聽

So if possible you work to stay under 700 kwh.

I have air conditioning and use it every damn night.聽 It's too hot!聽 But I bought the new energy efficient models and it does save money!

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Meleger Member

15POSTS

6 years ago

I didn't know they had website with posted rates. Can someone send me one of two links?

much appreciated.
Mel

Meleger Member

15POSTS

6 years ago

I found this link but doesn't show the rate and their PDF has broken url.

planner Dominican Republic Expert

17821POSTS

6 years ago

I can't find it either.聽 But my rates I posted above are close.聽 Plus you are charged a small account fee about 136 Rd a month.聽聽You can calculate more or.less the costs.

The issue with a complex billing is that you are guaranteed to be over the 700 kwh billing rate always.

Meleger Member

15POSTS

6 years ago

thanks.. very helpful.

So those companies are government owned?

Meleger Member

15POSTS

6 years ago

also I check the average price of electricity in US and based on many website it says it is 18cents per kwh.

then I take your average planner to be 12cents that is not such a big difference.

I thought people complained that DR is so much more expensive. I guess maybe the A/C units aren't as efficient.

planner Dominican Republic Expert

17821POSTS

6 years ago

Most of us are in the HIGHEST聽 bracket so dont average the price.聽 Consider it at the highest and you will not go wrong. Its pretty easy to get to 700 kwh a month of usage.聽 So at almost聽 12 pesos per KWH that is almost聽 23 cents per kwh.聽 Now add in most things are not energy efficient here and its hot聽 6 months of the year and damn hot the other聽 6 months!聽聽LOL聽

For those with good income this many not be much. In a country where the average wage is about US聽 300 a month and this is a big deal. Its all relative honey.

Meleger Member

15POSTS

6 years ago

#10

Is it worth replacing the AC units with more powerful ones? Do they sell high efficiency ones here in DR?

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planner Dominican Republic Expert

17821POSTS

6 years ago

#11

Yes they do sell many energy efficient models.聽 It's been worth it for me both at home and in my offices.

DominicanadaMike ViP

1051POSTS

6 years ago

#12

Meleger, I don't know your situation but have you considered a solar installation?聽 Save all the money on replacing everything with energy efficient units and buy a solar system instead.聽 Again, I don't know where you are. environmental conditions etc.聽 Just asking whether you have thought about it?

In my case I don't worry about the efficiency side anymore as I cannot use all of the energy I produce.聽 It has been more than cost effective for me.

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Robbie123 Active member

72POSTS

6 years ago

#13

From my last ednorte bill
200kwh X 4.44
100 kwh X 6.97
340kwh X 10.86
After that I dont know where it goes!

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DominicanadaMike ViP

1051POSTS

4 years ago

#14

If you think that is high, it's 14.32 per kwh plus a service charge in Bavaro (CEPM).

Guest2022 Guest

0POSTS

4 years ago

#15

It will increase gradually year by year up to 2026 from October as part of the electricity pact which removes the subsidies paid to the EDEs.

The dismantling of the electricity subsidy begins in October

Electricity rates will be reviewed every three months
The plan will run until December 2026

The Superintendency of Electricity (SIE) ordered that from next month a transition rate regime be applied for regulated users, with the aim of progressively dismantling the cross subsidy that is applied to electricity rates.

Resolution 075-2021 of the SIE updates the tariff transition schedule agreed in the Electricity Pact signed in February of this year. Starting in October, electricity prices will be reviewed every three months and will be variable because they will take into account the cost of energy and power, the transmission toll and even the exchange rate.

鈥淚f the variation in the Average Purchase Price and the exchange rate is upwards, all the tranches of the transitional tariff structure will be adjusted upwards. On the other hand, if the variation is downward, it will be transferred, as long as the transition rate levels are above the floor of the reference rate 鈥�, indicates the Electricity Pact signed this year that serves as the basis for the decision of the SE..........

This will not be popular but and the bigger users will have to foot most of the bill. And the EDEs need to start becoming more efficient and improve distribution and get everybody contributing. I don't pay a penny nor do many people in the campo but again we don't have good transmission lines and low voltage and the EDEs never come out to repair anything including rotting poles so locals cut down trees and fix temporary poles as a replacement to continue the supply.

And we are in the situation where the new Punta Catalina coal powered plants are running out of coal due to a bad agreement by the previous government and emergency supplies are having to be sought. Add to that the problems worldwide with natural gas supply such that there are fuel supplies with some generating units and power cuts as a result.

Unbelievable is the continuing mess in electricity supply and distribution which still is not resolved even after a misguided 3 billion dollar crooked investment in a coal fired plant.

EDEs need to shake out the corrupt and become lean and efficient and collect what is due and supply everybody properly assuming the power plants are working. The suppliers need to do the same and I am at a loss what is done with the big red herring of Catlina.

Add to the list of problems this government has had to face not to mention covid.

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Guest2022 Guest

0POSTS

4 years ago

#16

DominicanadaMike wrote:
If you think that is high, it's 14.32 per kwh plus a service charge in Bavaro (CEPM).

Private supply is probaably the best option for expats now if they can get it rather than the EDEs or solar if they can afford that investment.

In Las Terrenas they had a private supplier that was costly but relaible. The locals revolted. Now they have EDENORTE and whilst cheaper they also get the cuts.

ddmcghee Dominican Republic Expert

1952POSTS

4 years ago

#17

In LT, we have Luz y Fuerza and pay 14.95 per kWh if you use more than 200 kWh in the month. Less than 200 kWh of usage gets you a 50% discount.

And if our service is considered reliable, I feel for the rest of you!

planner Dominican Republic Expert

17821POSTS

4 years ago

#18

This is going to get very very ugly if we have to start paying even more for such horrendous service!聽聽

I feel for聽 so many areas where it is already bad!

sberger50 Active member

89POSTS

4 years ago

#19

I live in Central Texas and our rates vary from $7.50 to about $12.00.聽 Just a comparison to the US.

planner Dominican Republic Expert

17821POSTS

4 years ago

#20

Per kWh?????

oscarsahony Active member

72POSTS

4 years ago

#21

it can't be, i live in Houston I pay about 11 cents per Kw

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Guest2022 Guest

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4 years ago

#22

The supply in Las Terrenas from Luz y Fuerza was excellent until they had to use Edenorte supply and not their own generation plant.

Guest2022 Guest

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4 years ago

#23

The government subsizes a large chunk for very poor management at the Edes. Businesses also pay too little and many avoid paying altogether.

Sorting this problem out has been too hot a potatoe for past governments hence the continuing mess.

We should all pay our fair share including me but we are told that they dont charge us in our part of the campo.

Subsidies are recipies for problems. They hide inefficiency which is endemic in DR public services and service industries and supports low pay and low quality of service.

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ddmcghee Dominican Republic Expert

1952POSTS

4 years ago

#24

sberger50 wrote:
I live in Central Texas and our rates vary from $7.50 to about $12.00.聽 Just a comparison to the US.

That can't be right per kWh - unless you've converted that to pesos!

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planner Dominican Republic Expert

17821POSTS

4 years ago

#25

And IF that is converted to pesos, then also convert the average wage so you get this in perspective.

It isn't just the cost it's also about the buying power of the average people!

sberger50 Active member

89POSTS

4 years ago

#26

It is .07 to .12 Kwh.聽 They post it a little different.聽 My bad!

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Guest2022 Guest

0POSTS

4 years ago

#27

The power cuts these days are getting bad. Over six hours for me so far today.

The demand for electricity in the country has grown such that the highest total demand ever was hit in recent days.

This is not surprising as the country develops with many new properties being constructed replacing timber and metal roofed homes with one light bulb.

There was zero proper planning by the past governments and no spare capacity with the many old poorly mantained generating units breaking down from time to time and out of use and an inadequate distribution system maintained by the inefficient subsidised Edes.

The past government invested in a vastly overpriced 3 billion dollar coal plant which now has coal supplies secured but that does not solve the structural problems with electricity in DR and more generation is badly needed. The government has today committed to even more additional generation but that will take time to happen.

Government to buy 600 megawatts of electricity next week

President Luis Abinader described the blackouts as a disgrace

President Luis Abinader reported that 600 megawatts of electricity from non-renewable sources will be purchased next week to be added to the national energy system, which would be available in 12 and 18 months. Additionally, at the end of 2021, 800 megawatts will be awarded, which were tendered at the beginning of his government.

The president criticized that the State does not have a generation with ease "because there was no provision in the past." In that sense, he argued that "blackouts are a disgrace that we have had for many years."

At least the President is being quite frank about this continuous mess and not brushing it under the carpet as has been the case in the past. I see the PLD is trying to deflect suggesting the lack of coal is the problem but more arrived today and they had a few weeks left in stock so that was not the key problem. The old other plants are, along with under capacity still and lack of generation in the north of the country makes life there worse. Just plain bad planning and management for so many years before the country has a leadership that says it will take action.

Personally I think this is an opportunity when they should move to more renewable energy and offer big incentives to potential suppliers.

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planner Dominican Republic Expert

17821POSTS

4 years ago

#28

And soon the govt support of the EDE's聽 is being dropped.聽 Soon no electricity and higher prices!聽 This won't be fun!

Guest2022 Guest

0POSTS

4 years ago

#29

Almonte guarantees they will put an end to the deficit in the electricity sector

The Minister of Energy and Mines, Antonio Almonte, guaranteed that this dependence on the State will end blackouts, corruption and waste in the electricity sector.

He explained that for decades blackouts in the country had two fundamental reasons:

1. One was the limitation of electricity generation capacities.

2. Santo Domingo, RD and the financial blackouts, produced by the inability of the
聽聽 distributors to pay the current bill to the generators.

In this sense, the engineer Almonte said that, to prevent this from continuing to happen, the distributors (Edenorte, Edesur and Edeeste) in the last five months are paying all their current bills to the generators before 30 days.

"The payment of these invoices has avoided financial blackouts, and the generators receive the payment corresponding to their production and sale and that allows the market to always be sufficiently supplied," he said.

He said that this management works to reduce the financial costs of the distributors, debts that increased with default at a rate, sometimes inconvenient, that resulted in a higher financial cost.

Unfortunately now the problem is the generators can't meet the demand along with getting the supply to parts of the country with problems of infrastructure.

Sorting the Edes out is key so that they can perform their role distributing the power to all efficiently at best price without government subsidy. But more generation is needed too and quickly.

At least the problem is being discussed openly and the spin that Punta Catalina would solve all the problems is exposed as political hype.

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planner Dominican Republic Expert

17821POSTS

4 years ago

#30

Sadly this is just more political talk until we actually see results.

Karin1 Serial expat

354POSTS

4 years ago

#31

Acknowledging the problem is always the first step towards a solution.聽 Now if only we can implement more solar energy, on all the new construction and in the many open lands.

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brodies2013 Serial expat

513POSTS

4 years ago

#32

There鈥檚 an 11.11 rate I believe, but we have never gotten that high鈥�

Definitely worth buying direct solar pool pumps and AC鈥ut, we opted for 80% solar to still have grid tied鈥t the time when we got our solar AC the 100% version couldn鈥檛 be connected to city/back up power for night time use. (220 power 鈥攄ual phase required)

For comparison:
Our regular inverter AC runs 1500-1800w/ hour and our Solar AC runs 500w/ hour tops.

planner Dominican Republic Expert

17821POSTS

4 years ago

#33

Highest rate with the EDE system is 14.86 Rd per kwh

brodies2013 Serial expat

513POSTS

4 years ago

#34

Yikes!!!

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Guest2022 Guest

0POSTS

4 years ago

#35

KarinyCarlos wrote:
Acknowledging the problem is always the first step towards a solution.聽 Now if only we can implement more solar energy, on all the new construction and in the many open lands.

Authorities of the electricity sector sign seven contracts for the development of renewable energy projects

The Minister of Energy and Mines and the Executive Vice President of the Unified Council of Electricity Distribution Companies led the signing of seven contracts for renewable energy projects with national and foreign companies.

The investment for these projects will exceed US $ 485 million and it is expected that they would contribute 420 net megawatts to the system and could reach 544 peak megawatts of clean energy.

The Minister of Energy and Mines, Antonio Almonte, considered that these contracts stimulate investment in energy, generate confidence and fulfill the promise of change in the sector, said a statement.

He indicated that the construction of these projects will begin shortly in the different municipalities of the country.

The note indicates that the companies are planning to develop their photovoltaic projects of between 42 and 120 megawatts in Azua, Peravia, San Crist贸bal, San Pedro de Macor铆s, Monte Plata and La Victoria, in Santo Domingo Norte........

The past government spent $3 billion on a coal powered plant producing 700Mw - so we are told.

Renewables here from the private sector at a cost of $485m giving 420 - 544 Mw!

Questions to be asked in Odebrecht 3?

sberger50 Active member

89POSTS

4 years ago

#36

Why doesn't the DR install the wind generators that are all over Texas.聽 All you need is wind, and it produces 24 hours a day.聽 Many cities in Texas get all of their power from solar and the wind generators.聽 Lots of wind on the island, and it could make a lot of energy.聽 Maybe there is a reason?

planner Dominican Republic Expert

17821POSTS

4 years ago

#37

7 new renewable energy projects.聽 That almost always means solar and wind!

This is good news!!

Guest2022 Guest

0POSTS

4 years ago

#38

There are wind farms already in the south west south of Enriquillo, south of Bani and near Puerto Plata. Solar farms too with the largest in Monte Plata province.

allenjohnston Member

10POSTS

4 years ago

#39

We just completed our purchase of a home in Seahorse Ranch Friday.聽 SHR has 24/7 electrical service with generator backup and we will be paying about $0.26/kwh.聽 That contrasts with our home in the US where we pay $0.083 (Tennessee).聽 The ability to have 24/7 stable power is worth it.聽 To reduce consumption we are immediately replacing all 5 AC units which are 20+ years old and extremely energy inefficient.聽 We also have over 100 halogen lights in the home, 20-50 W each.聽 Switching to LED 2-7w lamps.聽 Finding ways to save energy so there is more to go around!

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