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Cynic wrote:

Hi - there is no simple answer to the question; my experience is that many EU countries benefits are directly related to the claimant having worked in that country.  However, there are UK benefits that may be claimed abroad; the UK Gov website provides information that may help individuals through the bureaucracy; this will take you there.

Hope this helps.

Cynic
Expat Team

Hiya Cynic

What is expat team.

I suppose you are correct, it depends on the country and what you have paid in. This is where the confusion and misunderstanding can occur from Brits going abroad, thinking everything is the same as the UK system, where there is no need to pay anything in but you are still entitled to every benefit and handout going including NHS from day one. All the government leaflets on how to claim are in Hindi, Arabic, Bengali, Punjabi, Urdu, Polish, Azerbaijani etc. And if you need an interpreter no problem at the taxpayers expense. Many other EU countries have a long way to go to reach this high standard.

Bella Seaton wrote:

Cynic wrote:

Hi - there is no simple answer to the question; my experience is that many EU countries benefits are directly related to the claimant having worked in that country.  However, there are UK benefits that may be claimed abroad; the UK Gov website provides information that may help individuals through the bureaucracy; this will take you there.

Hope this helps.

Cynic
Expat Team

Hiya Cynic

What is expat team.

I suppose you are correct, it depends on the country and what you have paid in. This is where the confusion and misunderstanding can occur from Brits going abroad, thinking everything is the same as the UK system, where there is no need to pay anything in but you are still entitled to every benefit and handout going including NHS from day one. All the government leaflets on how to claim are in Hindi, Arabic, Bengali, Punjabi, Urdu, Polish, Azerbaijani etc. And if you need an interpreter no problem at the taxpayers expense. Many other EU countries have a long way to go to reach this high standard.

The Expat Team are people that either work or help out as volunteers on this Forum; you can spot us from the little symbol at the top right of our avatars; some of us are experts (the volunteers), some are moderators who actually work for the ÌìÃÀÂ鶹 organisation.

With regards to your comments; yep, some Brit expats think that way, some don't; I've never claimed benefits or income support in any country that I've lived or worked in.  With regards to the support the UK provides to immigrants and workers from the EU, that's purely down to the UK's interpretation of what the EU guiding regulations require.  The reason why it's different in other countries is that they have a different interpretation of the same, identical regulation; some choosing to ignore specific parts all together.  Had the UK been a little bit more sensible in its implementation of the EU regs, then IMO, perhaps Brexit would never have happened.

Hope this helps.

Cynic
Expat Team

Johncar wrote:

All the money which is paid to you is provided by taxpayers.  Governments do not have any money of ‘their own’     

So whilst you may call it a Right it is other people’s money being given to you.  Just  as money donated to a charity is then given to others

Not too sure what I have learnt from this thread other than Johnboy son has done his money in, which is of no interest or help to me. I do not understand the term ‘other people’s money being given to you’ surly this is the morals of distribution of wealth, I have not stolen any money. If anybody disagrees with the welfare benefits system they should complain to the democratically elected government and not go round pointing the finger at the less unfortunate calling them scroungers, thieves and scumbags.

My farther was a miner and the family lived week to week until he had a stroke and had to claim benefits, I suppose he just became another scumbag.

My mother always use to say ‘there for the grace of God go I’.

Bella Seaton wrote:

Not too sure what I have learnt from this thread other than ....

I answered your question (post 13 of this thread); the rest has gone down a political rabbit hole which has really no place on this Forum.

Johncar wrote:

Bella. Quote ‘ have tried to read these links etc, but when ya get to the nitty gritty you end up on a Spanish only social Hand out webby site.........  ‘

You seem to have pointed out Spain’s view on such payments ‘hand outs’

PS Workers who fall ill through no fault of their own, and those who may have been born with difficulties of course have the Right to Assistance,  however, I do not think people who choose their situation are in that  category   But as a taxpayer in U.K. and Spain, that is just my opinion

I absolutely agree with you. It seems like the UK government and taxpayer have a reputation of being a soft touch and I am not surprised when you read about free health tourists. Sometimes is it a case of the government just saying give them the money to get rid of them, and the taxpayer more interested in the next episode of Coronation Street.

I doubt Spain is like that, it will be SIP card/ private insurance or die. I hear Spain now has food banks for the needy, they are the bins at back of Lidl.

You have to ask yourself, if money is being chucked around for free there will always be a queue of takers, who’s fault is that?

Cynic wrote:

Bella Seaton wrote:

Not too sure what I have learnt from this thread other than ....

I answered your question (post 13 of this thread); the rest has gone down a political rabbit hole which has really no place on this Forum.

You said 'Hi - there is no simple answer to the question'

Sorry about that Cynic I did not realise it was you who decides on behalf of all the members what the forum content should be.

Would you prefer I not post anymore. 

Bella Seaton wrote:

Cynic wrote:

Bella Seaton wrote:

Not too sure what I have learnt from this thread other than ....

I answered your question (post 13 of this thread); the rest has gone down a political rabbit hole which has really no place on this Forum.

You said 'Hi - there is no simple answer to the question'

Sorry about that Cynic I did not realise it was you who decides on behalf of all the members what the forum content should be.

Would you prefer I not post anymore. 

No, I said:

Cynic Post 13 wrote:

"Hi - there is no simple answer to the question; my experience is that many EU countries benefits are directly related to the claimant having worked in that country.  However, there are UK benefits that may be claimed abroad; the UK Gov website provides information that may help individuals through the bureaucracy; this link will take you there.

Hope this helps.

So I gave you a link to an authoritative source to answer your specific question.  Have you checked it out?

My thoughts as to who posts on here are largely irrelevant; I'm here to help everyone when I can, not make it hard.  I am bound by the Forum Terms & Conditions and will remove posts that contravene them.

With regards to your personal activity on the Forum, I have no preference either way.  I would encourage everybody to make positive factual contributions to the discussion, be they what the person wants to hear, or not.

Hope this helps.

Cynic
Expat Team